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Old Jul 22, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13   #21
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Dude, don't quit! I just passed those quests today with my mesmer, also failed five times before completing it, and I've been playing GW since last April! Just try a different profession, mesmer is the hardest one to be.
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Old Jul 22, 2006, 06:08 AM // 06:08   #22
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Yeah, hang in there! Don't let things overwhelm you. There's tons of people out there that will answer any questions you may have. (My IGN is Ahndia Beppu, feel free to add me to your friends list)

You don't HAVE to do those training quests right away. Going up against 2 level 10's isn't going to be easy. When you've gotten your level up (say around level 15), go back and try them.

You can also try different professions out, make a ranger & see how that goes. Warriors are also a fairly easy class to start out on. If you've got a few extra bucks around, pick up Prophecies - the learning curve is much easier & the overall game isn't quite as complex. (and the Story-line is better, too)
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Old Jul 22, 2006, 11:33 AM // 11:33   #23
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For some classes, those tests are TOUGH. Sometimes I have an easy time of it, sometimes I've died doing those, and I've been playing GW for a while. The session where you have those two guys pounding on you can be really tough for spellcasters.

Yeah, don't quit over this. It has nothing to do with being suited to MMORPGs or not. Good suggestions already. Wait to do the insignia--you don't have to do it right away. Or try another class (though mesmers rock!). And yes, Prophecies has a much slower learning curve, so if you can afford it, you might want to pick it up and start in Tyria instead.
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Old Jul 22, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35   #24
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Thanks very much everyone! I wish I could run into you all when I'm in game. Ask for help in there, and you get some 14 year old porn freak trying to hump your leg, (Maybe I shouldn't have created a female character! ) and trying to get anyone to either join your party or let you into their party when you're a level 8 mesmer is I think, literally impossible. Nobody will even acknowledge you exist or even respond to your queries. Go out in the world up against level 14 spellcasters with a level 3 NPC party and your level 8 self, and you promptly get your arse handed to you on a platter. Couple that with the same on these skills tests, and the entire experience is substantially frustrating.

I'm an old school (and old at 37) gamer, that started with Zelda and moved to Duke Nukem and Quake on the PC. I think I've spent too much time playing FPS, TFPS and Third person action games over the years and ruined myself for serious RPG's. Only recently have I gotten bored with those and started looking for something of a more intellectual challenge. I enjoyed KOTOR 1&2 and Fable TLC immensely, but Guild Wars learning curve is a WHOLE lot steeper than those titles. Due to the games complexity and my limited available gaming time with my work schedule, I may have met my match.

I don't have the first clue what to do with all these chitin fragments, shells, scalps, scarves, capes, fabric pieces, plants, minerals, animals, runes etc. I assume one can purchase some dye's or other materials or items, take them to a tailor or armor manufacturer, combine them and have them turned into apparel or armor or weapons or enhance existing items, but I'll be damned if I can find any NPC's that fit that bill. Hell, I found someone to customize my cane early on, and now I can't even find them again. I've ended up just selling everything as a result, and now I have a mess of gold, but haven't found anywhere to purchase a higher level cane or armor or anything. Maybe I just need to find an actual game guide book and fork out the $$$? Has anyone found that to be helpful?
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Old Jul 22, 2006, 03:54 PM // 15:54   #25
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I'd like to help, but "Kasari Ajunta" doesn't exist so I can't contact you.
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Old Jul 22, 2006, 04:42 PM // 16:42   #26
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Umm... "Doesn't exist"? Kasari Ajunta is my character in GWF. Level 8 mesmer. Here is a screenie even.
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Old Jul 22, 2006, 05:09 PM // 17:09   #27
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Assuming you bought the game in its box, you should have gotten something called "The Guild Wars Manuscripts" which is just a manual. There's a lot of basic stuff in there that should help you out.

Here's some tips:
- Hold Alt. It'll show you the names of all the NPC's near you. For the most part, they'll all have different names - the important part is the tag after their name. You don't really have to remember where they are, just pan your view around until you find them.

- Big cities have more NPC's than small outposts/towns. For example, Shing Jea Monestary might have a Weaponsmith, while Tsumei Village might not.

- As soon as you can, upgrade your storage by talking to the Xunlai Representative. From then on, you'll be able to store the materials that you find in your storage box.

- Armor can be bought from anybody with the [Armor] tag after their name. They have a big, confusing menu of armor that can be crafted. Basically, a single armor crafter will have one "look," that is, all the armor that he makes will look the same. However, you'll notice that they have a variety of choices in armor types. For example, one set of armor will give you extra energy, another might give extra health or armor. Armor crafting requires gold and materials. You can buy the materials from a vendor, but it's cheaper to save up the materials yourself.

- Since you're new, I'd suggest talking to any Collectors that you see, and looking at what they offer. If you find one that has a weapon/offhand that you want, remember what item they're asking for, and remember not to merchant those. Once you can make the requirement of a max damage weapon (generally 9), save up and buy a cheap green. Green weapons are always perfect, though they have different mods. Luckily for you, mesmer weapons are some of the cheapest out there.
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Old Jul 22, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44   #28
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I do have the manuscripts manual and have been looking through it. In fact I picked Mesmer because of the manuscript, just to find they don't seem to be very welcome as party members. Doh!

My biggest problems right now are:

A. I can't find any of the armor manufacturers even using Alt. I'm probably looking in the wrong area. Are there any at the monastery, or do you have to go to another town to find one? and

B. I made it through most of the Mesmer trials, but I can't make it through the monk ones and I think I need some better armor or to level up to make it through.

C. I can't get anyone to join my party because I'm a mesmer and end up doing everything with NPC party members, which are limited to level 3, and don't fare so hot against level 14 NPC baddies.

I've invested a lot of time and effort in my mesmer character (Kasari Ajunta) and have her at level 8 with about half the points needed to level up to 9. I hate to just dump the character and start fresh, but I'm wondering if a different profession might not resolve most of my current frustrations with the game.
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Old Jul 22, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51   #29
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Well, you've got 4 character slots. Most people use 3 for PvE characters and leave the 4th open for making PvP characters. Having a hard time getting into groups with a Mesmer is a mixed blessing. The one's that don't want mesmers in their group are generally poor players & their mission sucess rate isn't very good. Hang onto yours, you'll be glad you did.

A great resource for all things GW is guildwiki.com. TONS of good info there about Armors, missions, quests, collectors, etc. Find out what materials you need for the armor you want, and start saving up for it. OR you find the various collectors that trade armor for items, find out what they collect & save those items - cheapest armor in the game, but works just as well!
NEVER BUY ARMOR FROM ANOTHER PLAYER!!!!! (or anything else that says "customized for...")

I've got a lower level Ele sitting in Tsumei Village collecting dust. PM me ingame if you're having trouble, I'll try to give you a hand.
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Old Jul 22, 2006, 10:15 PM // 22:15   #30
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29   #31
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Hey all, my apologies. I just discovered why you couldn't find me in the game. That would be because my fat fingers hit the wrong key when typing my name in here. It's actually Kasari Ajuntu, not Ajunta. Oops! It's fixed now. Sorry to send you on a wild goose chase.

Oh and if someone can suggest a good way through my trial with Brother Pe Wan without getting spanked (again!), I'd be forever indebted!

Thanks for the tips and help all!
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02   #32
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Sorry you are having such a hard time with this game. My suggestion would be to try and find a guild to join...u can join/quit as many as u want until u find one that is good and has helpful members. Also mesmers rock :P so stick with it. I know what you are going thru since we have similar backgrounds with games..Quake Duke MDK,etc you ever play MuDS? long way from what MMO used to be isnt it..anyways If u ever get prophecies give me a holler and we can team up since I don't have Factions....

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Old Jul 24, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45   #33
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Holy crap I finally beat Brother Pe Wan! Thanks very much to Canadian Bacon for some good suggestions that helped. Using his suggestions and much experimentation with moving points and skills around, I finally got past him. Only took a week and about 30 tries.

Here is the combination that finally beat him in case anyone else wants to create a mesmer.

Level 8 Mesmer

Fast Casting = 2
Domination Magic = 7
Inspiration Magic = 1
Smiting Prayers = 1

Shatter Hex - Bane of Signet - Ether Feast - Empathy - Imagined Burden - Ether Feast - Shatter Hex

I had more skills loaded up but didn't end up using them and found that combination worked very well.

Immediately hit him with the shatter hex and then start your character to attacking him constantly. Then quickly hit him with the bane of signet, which knocks him down and gives you a moment of respite. Then go with ether feast so you are recharging while he's attacking you. Then hit him with the empathy so it's hurting him while he's attacking you. By that time the shatter hex will be worn off on him and your attacks won't do any damage, but shatter hex won't be recharged to use yet, so hit him with imagined burden. Doesn't cause him any damage but slows him down a tad. Then do your ether feast as it should be wearing off and immediately hit him with shatter hex again when it's recharged and continue the regular attacks. With in the next few seconds after doing that, he should concede and give you the win.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09   #34
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Grats on getting pen wan down. I have had similar troubles with that part both on monk/mesmer and a ritualist/mesmer I just started.

Damage is truly the way to go, getting his hp's down seems to be more effective than trying to time or wait out your 25 seconds recharge on the shatter enchantment.

Managed to finish with my lvl 7 ritualist today only took me 4 deaths and buying two more domination skills
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24   #35
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Holy crap I finally beat Brother Pe Wan!
Congrats!

As far as not being able to get into a group, that'll change as you progress through the game. I found my mesmer to be in demand, especially if you play an interrupter, as I usually do. Mesmers do pretty well with henchies, too.

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Damage is truly the way to go, getting his hp's down seems to be more effective than trying to time or wait out your 25 seconds recharge on the shatter enchantment.
Yeah, for the insignia tests, I find it's usually better to ignore whatever the test is supposed to be and just go full out and inflict as much damage as you can to your opponent(s). They usually concede pretty quickly.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 08:43 PM // 20:43   #36
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Thanks for the tips! I still have one more mesmer trial to go, that being to stay alive for 2 minutes while Wang Cha and Jinzo beat on me. I've had about as much success at that one, as I had originally against Brother Pe Wan.

Now that I've figured out that moving points around makes a big difference, I think I'll fair better. I'll let ya'all know how that one goes when I get to try. Right now, I'm off to work my 60 hour work week.

Laters all and thanks much for the help, tips and encouragement!
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01   #37
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Thanks for the tips! I still have one more mesmer trial to go, that being to stay alive for 2 minutes while Wang Cha and Jinzo beat on me. I've had about as much success at that one, as I had originally against Brother Pe Wan.

Now that I've figured out that moving points around makes a big difference, I think I'll fair better. I'll let ya'all know how that one goes when I get to try. Right now, I'm off to work my 60 hour work week.

Laters all and thanks much for the help, tips and encouragement!
Just Take some Self Healing skills and run around the Area in a circle for 2 mins ,

speed increasing skills help, but as Mo/Me you dont realy have any.

Also, anytime you need help feel free to contact me ingame (Isamu Kurosawa)
im on the Euro server so we'd have to meet up in the international districts though
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53   #38
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Thank you all for your help, ideas and encouagement. Thanks in part to your efforts, I've finally beaten all of the Mesmer trials and was granted my "expert mesmer" status. (Why don't I feel very expert? )

I still have much to learn about the world, crafting items and weapons, what is needed, where to go etc, and of course what it's like to be in a party since all I've been able to use is NPC party members, but I'm starting slowly to get the hang of things.

It's a beginning and we'll see where it takes me!
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 09:15 PM // 21:15   #39
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Don't forget to experiment....gives you some nice builds time to time (but wait untill you know when you are experienced enough ) ( God, I sound like a mother giving her daughter advice about sex )

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Old Jul 27, 2006, 06:57 PM // 18:57   #40
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I'm afraid you're going to have to ellaborate on that one. What is "the experiment"? An optional Mesmer challenge I will run into later that offers new skills or something?
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